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Created on 2010-05-11 20:04:25.

2010-05-11

BASEKAMP team: 17:59:42
hi everyone - we're still getting set up here.
atrowbri: 18:00:29
Scranton
BASEKAMP team: 18:00:30
awesomely, Skype "join" links are all b0rken this week, and -- it started raining here not long ago >smiley
atrowbri: 18:00:30
everyone
BASEKAMP team: 18:01:28
while we finish setting up audio here & wait for kent -- hows everyone doing?
BASEKAMP team: 18:02:06
 smiley  smiley  smiley
kent hansen: 18:02:39
guess I'm here... smiley
BASEKAMP team: 18:02:51
well hello kent
kent hansen: 18:03:56
ok
BASEKAMP team: 18:04:10
will be on in just a moment everyone -- i know you're sitting on pins & needles
Greg Scranton: 18:04:28
I'm sitting on a duck
Greg Scranton: 18:04:33
a few in fact
atrowbri: 18:06:18
poor ducks smiley
Jessica Westbrook: 18:07:01
smiley  hello nice to meet you all
BASEKAMP team: 18:07:12
ok guys, let's give it a shot
atrowbri: 18:07:48
smiley
BASEKAMP team: 18:07:51
so jessica doesn't want audio --- everyone else?
Greg Scranton: 18:08:15
soundz 4 me pls
BASEKAMP team: 18:08:21
jessica- ok for us to just call eeryone and you not pick up? or is that too annoying on your end?
BASEKAMP team: 18:09:37
ok, we'll see...
Aharon: 18:10:14
i can hear fine. mic on mute
atrowbri: 18:10:29
we are on, muted
stephen wright: 18:10:29
are you calling us scott?
BASEKAMP team: 18:10:39
yea
Jessica Westbrook: 18:12:12
school is out
Jessica Westbrook: 18:12:17
last week
Jessica Westbrook: 18:12:58
note: we had 3 weeks of senior shows/lectures that interrupted our class meeting
stephen wright: 18:15:24
sorry, audio got dropped -- can you call back?
BASEKAMP team: 18:15:35
yes!
stephen wright: 18:15:44
thanks!
BASEKAMP team: 18:15:49
np
BASEKAMP team: 18:24:31
http://www.basekamp.com/about/events/democratic-innovation
Greg Scranton: 18:28:11
love the "strategy blows" balloons! can you tell us more about what's written on them, hard to tell from photo. Dymaxion map?
BASEKAMP team: 18:29:10
hey greg yea - i know what thost are from smiley we shuld def talk about that soon
BASEKAMP team: 18:29:22
btw, is the audio a little better? just muted ours!
Greg Scranton: 18:29:58
audio sounds great Scott yes
atrowbri: 18:30:11
the audio is fantastic
BASEKAMP team: 18:30:56
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stephen wright: 18:33:09
just lost audio... can you call me back?
stephen wright: 18:35:05
hey scott.... can you call me please?
BASEKAMP team: 18:35:16
oh yes
BASEKAMP team: 18:35:26
calling bak now
stephen wright: 18:35:37
hey thanks!
BASEKAMP team: 18:35:43
smiley
BASEKAMP team: 18:39:17
smiley
BASEKAMP team: 18:40:10
calling you now bojana
bojana romic: 18:40:38
got it, switched off the mic
Aharon: 18:48:12
one of the things that seems interesting to me, or rather possibly ironically interesting, in this tention (??) between democratic - which is bottom up process of exploration, and organisation which is a sort of design/top-down kind of a process..
Aharon: 18:48:33
i find it hard to make it a question - but in fact, it is!
Aharon: 18:50:04
am not sure about thre mic
Aharon: 18:50:24
because it usually disturbs others here..
Aharon: 18:50:33
smiley
BASEKAMP team: 18:51:34
for example "self-organization"
BASEKAMP team: 18:53:16
hi theresa ---- adding you to the audio now...
stephen wright: 18:55:43
hey scott -- can you add me again too, slipped off again
BASEKAMP team: 18:55:44
cool
BASEKAMP team: 18:55:47
oh
BASEKAMP team: 18:55:57
adding u again sw
stephen wright: 18:56:00
thanks again!
BASEKAMP team: 18:56:26
kent was just saying there was a lot of discussion about the process of organizing and communication itself
BASEKAMP team: 18:56:38
throughout the process of working with the people in the factory
BASEKAMP team: 18:56:40
ies
Greg Scranton: 18:56:57
we're still here smiley
Aharon: 18:57:27
are these organisations operational only for a certain persiod - or continuos..?
BASEKAMP team: 18:59:34
elysa adding you to the audio nowwwww
Aharon: 18:59:39
does the time element matter - in your mind - if yes, how?
Aharon: 19:00:23
..so.. do u see projects morph into one another..?
Aharon: 19:01:05
in your view
Greg Scranton: 19:01:47
maybe another way of recontextualizing the ? w/out speaking for Aharon...is each project discrete, one ends and another begins
Greg Scranton: 19:02:04
or is there some overlap
Greg Scranton: 19:03:05
Scott did you say TVTV? As in the SF vid collective? Sorry I missed that
BASEKAMP team: 19:04:06
Greg, in Copenhagen
BASEKAMP team: 19:04:08
http://tv-tv.dk/
Greg Scranton: 19:04:42
ohhhhh ok
Greg Scranton: 19:04:52
is there an awareness of the SF group?
Greg Scranton: 19:05:02
just curious
kent hansen: 19:05:14
tv-tv.dk
BASEKAMP team: 19:06:25
hah nice ----
Greg Scranton: 19:06:50
Aharon was that related to the "hack my cellphone" thing you did a while ago?
Aharon: 19:07:08
http://www.mellemtiden.tv/
kent hansen: 19:07:14
mellemtiden.tv
Aharon: 19:07:19
smiley
BASEKAMP team: 19:07:25
ok thx
BASEKAMP team: 19:09:39
http://www.basekamp.com/sites/default/files/event/oa_balloon_0.jpg
BASEKAMP team: 19:10:15
i could never pronounce that!
BASEKAMP team: 19:11:09
]smiley
Aharon: 19:12:18
lost sound
Aharon: 19:12:23
smiley
Aharon: 19:13:18
no sound..
atrowbri: 19:13:33
haha
atrowbri: 19:13:36
chaos!
BASEKAMP team: 19:13:53
calling you bak aharonn
BASEKAMP team: 19:15:07
aharon, are you playing sister nancy in the background?
Jonathan Wagener: 19:15:29
hello
kent hansen: 19:15:36
http://saloon.dk/oa
Aharon: 19:15:38
sorry.. it was playing
BASEKAMP team: 19:15:41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Nancy LOL
kent hansen: 19:17:17
http://aobook.org
kent hansen: 19:17:34
http://oabook.org
stephen wright: 19:18:27
very cool
stephen wright: 19:20:54
What was that?
stephen wright: 19:20:58
what was missing?
Theresa: 19:21:15
the money i think
stephen wright: 19:21:30
oh, figures
stephen wright: 19:21:33
$$
BASEKAMP team: 19:22:07
Sasha, -- -audio too?
ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:22:16
Yes Please!
BASEKAMP team: 19:22:24
okay!
stephen wright: 19:24:04
but the collective writing process worked well?
Greg Scranton: 19:24:29
yes I am curious as well!
Theresa: 19:24:39
and how did it work?
stephen wright: 19:24:43
I'm interested too in knowing if your experience in the workplaces impacted in how you went about that
ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:24:43
yes- me too
Greg Scranton: 19:25:42
perhaps a painfully dull question but I wonder what "tools" you use? Paper & Pen? Email? Google Docs? Wikis? All of the above?
Theresa: 19:26:11
dull is helpful sometimes!
stephen wright: 19:26:42
pointed question rather!
Greg Scranton: 19:26:50
heh
Jonathan Wagener: 19:27:06
lol
stephen wright: 19:27:58
that strikes me as important too scott
BASEKAMP team: 19:28:21
here's one image of the projection table

http://www.basekamp.com/sites/default/files/event/table2_0.jpg
stephen wright: 19:30:26
lost me again -- can you call me back
BASEKAMP team: 19:30:50
d'oh! yea
Greg Scranton: 19:30:55
a student of mine and I built a crude version of one of these using processing: http://www.reactable.com/products/reactable_experience/
BASEKAMP team: 19:31:15
stephen, i had just described kent's table smiley i know you wanted to hear about that
Greg Scranton: 19:31:15
has similar potential
Greg Scranton: 19:31:27
despite primary use as live audio interface
BASEKAMP team: 19:31:35
greg - looks interesting!
Greg Scranton: 19:31:38
audio?
Aharon: 19:31:43
no sound smiley
stephen wright: 19:31:43
no audio
BASEKAMP team: 19:31:48
ruh roh
bojana romic: 19:31:50
my audio is lost too
Theresa: 19:31:50
none here
Greg Scranton: 19:31:52
lol
BASEKAMP team: 19:31:55
kent we lost you... calling you bak
Greg Scranton: 19:32:02
us too
Elysa Lozano: 19:32:07
me too
BASEKAMP team: 19:32:14
ack ok
BASEKAMP team: 19:32:19
let's call eeryone back
stephen wright: 19:32:20
I'm having a hard time following because of sound tonight
BASEKAMP team: 19:32:30
sorry stephen -- will call back now
ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:32:34
call me too please!
Greg Scranton: 19:33:17
we back
BASEKAMP team: 19:33:17
is everyone back now?
eanstoops" title="seanstoops">Sean Stoops: 19:33:18
hello again
stephen wright: 19:33:25
back!
Theresa: 19:33:25
yes
BASEKAMP team: 19:33:26
adam not yet
bojana romic: 19:33:43
cool now
Greg Scranton: 19:34:00
I don't hear anyone
BASEKAMP team: 19:34:02
ok... almost there... calling kent back
Greg Scranton: 19:34:10
oh ok sorry
Greg Scranton: 19:34:19
there we go
kent hansen: 19:34:29
hallo!
BASEKAMP team: 19:35:13
kent we need to call you back
kent hansen: 19:35:23
ok
stephen wright: 19:35:56
okay
Greg Scranton: 19:36:23
yep that seemed to work
Greg Scranton: 19:37:05
Kent I just added you to contact list
Greg Scranton: 19:37:12
pls accept
bojana romic: 19:37:19
Kent is the host of the another call
ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:38:01
Greg- can you add me to the audio?
Theresa: 19:39:06
good jobs guys
BASEKAMP team: 19:39:26
Greg, Sasha's skype name is 'sashadela'
Greg Scranton: 19:39:40
thx Scott got it...I think
ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:39:40
I'm on- thanks
Greg Scranton: 19:39:43
ya
BASEKAMP team: 19:39:43
kewl
Greg Scranton: 19:40:48
of course now I need to step away for some kid duty - brb
BASEKAMP team: 19:41:03
greg - thx smiley
stephen wright: 19:43:32
It's even more random than using skype!
Aharon: 19:44:19
r u talking about chatroulette?
stephen wright: 19:44:19
but what's strange is that it does actually allow some meaning to emerge at the other end
BASEKAMP team: 19:44:47
aharon yes exactly
BASEKAMP team: 19:45:30
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Greg Scranton: 19:46:00
funny I just got back and now you guys are talking about things said that you missed
Theresa: 19:46:29
yeah!!!
Theresa: 19:46:56
i'll help scott
Greg Scranton: 19:47:04
there are plenty of factories in Philly smiley
Greg Scranton: 19:47:38
yes that was my read as well given the photos
Greg Scranton: 19:48:07
cubicles are now called "work spaces" at my wife's "factory"
BASEKAMP team: 19:48:11
we also have co-working spaces here... a more current kind of workspace, where everyone is online
BASEKAMP team: 19:48:33
greg ^^ smiley
Greg Scranton: 19:49:51
it's interesting too to think of factories as spaces where the division of labor is quite obvious despite shared space
Greg Scranton: 19:50:12
physical space that is
BASEKAMP team: 19:51:18
yes, and it feels kind of metaphoric as artists when our own identity becomes the product
Aharon: 19:52:05
y is it not organising?
stephen wright: 19:55:57
oh oh, all's silent
Greg Scranton: 19:56:36
this has been, once again, really excellent! Thanks Kent!
Elysa Lozano: 19:56:46
thank you!
bojana romic: 19:56:51
1:55 central european time
bojana romic: 19:56:56
smiley
Theresa: 19:57:05
thank you
bojana romic: 19:57:08
thanks!
Aharon: 19:57:17
thanks kent! smiley
stephen wright: 19:57:20
here too -- thanks kent. I'll just fill in the gaps. the rest is silence
kent hansen: 19:57:24
thanks to all of you
Aharon: 19:57:28
have a good sleep!
Greg Scranton: 19:57:28
Good morning/day/night all.  See you next time
Aharon: 19:57:39
nighty night!
eanstoops" title="seanstoops">Sean Stoops: 19:57:56
bye all!
kent hansen: 19:58:02
good night, bye
BASEKAMP team: 19:58:06
cyas next weekk
Jonathan Wagener: 19:58:08
cheerio