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Created on 2010-02-17 01:46:52.

BASEKAMP team: 17:46:17: Hello Leah & Scott
Leah Anderson: 17:46:26: hello
Julian: 17:46:43: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/share/publicchats/join/?skypename=basekamp&...
Julian: 17:46:52: did you get the link?
BASEKAMP team: 17:52:05: atrowbri!
BASEKAMP team: 17:52:08: welcome
utcplausibleartworlds: 17:52:11: niiiiiiice re: link connect
utcplausibleartworlds: 17:52:34
BASEKAMP team: 17:52:59: you know it. (this is greg btw)
BASEKAMP team: 18:02:57: hello stephen
stephen wright: 18:03:09: Hello!
scottrigby: 18:03:13: hello guys
scottrigby: 18:03:28: so we're at Apexart, and people are chatting in the background -- which i asume is all beign picked up
BASEKAMP team: 18:03:52: Hendrix ghost at Apexart?
scottrigby: 18:04:01: haha yeah
BASEKAMP team: 18:04:24: hey everyone we will most likely get started soon
scottrigby: 18:04:30: great
stephen wright: 18:04:38: Give us 5
BASEKAMP team: 18:04:48: sure Stephen
scottrigby: 18:05:13: Greg - will you flag us on the text chat if we're not hearing someone?
scottrigby: 18:06:08: the thing is we just need to keep the speakers low so we don't get feedback. We can mute whenever we need to, and raise the speakers up
scottrigby: 18:06:11: if that sounds ok?
BASEKAMP team: 18:08:28: Hey everyone, tonights a bit unique in that we are bridging NYC & Philly so please hang tight everyone
scottrigby: 18:09:49: ok, so our audio at Apexart is a little too high-tech the mic is uber-sensitive, so we have to turn down the speakers -- otherwise we get Hendrix-like effects...
utcplausibleartworlds: 18:10:13: test
scottrigby: 18:11:51: what that means is that we likely won't be able to hear you, until we know you want to chat -- and then we'll mute our audio and turn up our spekers
scottrigby: 18:12:05: if that makse sounds ok to everyone?
scottrigby: 18:15:32: hey everyone -- we haven't started the audio yet -- we'll let you know as soon as we do
bojana romic: 18:15:47: thanks
BASEKAMP team: 18:17:23: As Scott mentioned, we've not begun just yet, waiting for some more people to file in at ApexArt in NYC.
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 18:17:36: ok
scottrigby: 18:18:29: So everyone - let's use the text-chat to organize starting the audio. We're getting close to starting here
scottrigby: 18:18:56: it's shaped up to be highly informal here -- which we'll wrangle very soon. Within minutes....
BASEKAMP team: 18:19:08: Scott I was planning on calling everyone and whomever doesn't want it can decline the call
stephen wright: 18:20:00: scott is coming toward the table...
BASEKAMP team: 18:20:28: ok ApexArt is settling down, audio soon.....?
stephen wright: 18:21:12: 60 seconds
BASEKAMP team: 18:21:26: Scott's making the plea...Stephen says 60 secs.....
BASEKAMP team: 18:21:35: count it down everyone
stephen wright: 18:21:37: 45 and counting
stephen wright: 18:22:22: trying to get the participants to the table!
BASEKAMP team: 18:22:30: stephen's gonna have to do some fuzzy math pretty soon
scottrigby: 18:22:36: so Greg, if you'd like to start adding people to the chat -- and we'll continue to ask them to mute their audio... we can go ahead and get started whenever
scottrigby: 18:22:41: haha
stephen wright: 18:23:10: GO!
utcplausibleartworlds: 18:23:52: we have audio
scottrigby: 18:24:01: Great - hi everyone
BASEKAMP team: 18:24:06: great to hear utc
anthony sawrey: 18:24:18: im so there!!
magdalenatc: 18:24:25: hi there.
anthony sawrey: 18:24:31: feedback occuring
BASEKAMP team: 18:24:33: please mute your mics everyone
BASEKAMP team: 18:24:39: great
magdalenatc: 18:24:39: done
anthony sawrey: 18:24:43: perfecto
magdalenatc: 18:24:45: fantastic
utcplausibleartworlds: 18:24:50: some feedback
BASEKAMP team: 18:25:36: if you are not currently on audio please let us know if you want to be
scottrigby: 18:25:42: how's the feedback now?
BASEKAMP team: 18:25:48: ok here Scott
scottrigby: 18:25:54: great
bojana romic: 18:25:57: perfect
magdalenatc: 18:25:58: no feedback, great sound
mabel: 18:26:14: very good sound indeed
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 18:26:57: yes the sound is good, but I didnt catch the name of the speak. Is it barbara Stravini?
utcplausibleartworlds: 18:27:02: sound is great
scottrigby: 18:27:15: Davig G :Yes -- Barbara Steveni from APG
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 18:27:35: ok - sorry about the spelling
scottrigby: 18:27:42: fr anyone interested in a short intro: http://basekamp.com/about/events/artist-placement-group-basekamp-apexart
scottrigby: 18:28:12: oh, it was my misspelling -- it's part of the process
BASEKAMP team: 18:28:25: Salem shall I add you to the audio?
scottrigby: 18:28:38
alemcj" title="salemcj">salem collo-julin: 18:28:57: hi, thanks, sure!
BASEKAMP team: 18:31:46: by chance...
scottrigby: 18:32:06: ^^
BASEKAMP team: 18:34:56: don't mince words Stephen
scottrigby: 18:35:54
BASEKAMP team: 18:36:49: hi did the audio start/
BASEKAMP team: 18:36:50: ?
scottrigby: 18:37:10: greg, can you add MGB to the chat?
BASEKAMP team: 18:37:32: (sorry if this is confusing, this is phiilly bk)
anthony sawrey: 18:38:49: whoah, wheres the video? i missed that bit
BASEKAMP team: 18:39:01: scott I don't see him?
scottrigby: 18:39:22: yeah - the video isn't online currently -- we're talking with Barbara to help make that happen, but not yet
scottrigby: 18:40:51: the video is here at Apexart -- we'll let you all know (if anyone's interested, please comment on this week's event page on basekamp's website http://bit.ly/9QWMVy, and we can keep you posted there)
BASEKAMP team: 18:43:53: yes
scottrigby: 18:44:08: oh -- michael -- can you use your personal account?
BASEKAMP team: 18:44:13: yes
BASEKAMP team: 18:44:14: brb
BASEKAMP team: 18:44:17: you need to log in as a diff user
scottrigby: 18:44:25: in order to get on the audio, you need a separate acct - thx ]
mabel: 18:45:14: is video working now?? I didn't understood it
scottrigby: 18:45:24: no video - only audio
mabel: 18:45:36: ok
BASEKAMP team: 18:45:52: hi mgb
scottrigby: 18:45:53: there is a video playing here @ apexart, but it's not available online yet
BASEKAMP team: 18:46:01: can you mute your mic mgb
scottrigby: 18:46:02: hello Basekamp space!
BASEKAMP team: 18:46:23: michael, can you mute your mic please
scottrigby: 18:46:34: michael, in the skype audio window, the mute is a little icon in the lower left
BASEKAMP team: 18:46:38: thx
scottrigby: 18:46:43: second from the left ----- cool
BASEKAMP team: 18:46:55: thx scott
scottrigby: 18:47:15
michael g bauer: 18:47:28: hello thank you we are connected
scottrigby: 18:47:48: w00t!
BASEKAMP team: 18:48:15: michael, seems your mic is still on, no?
BASEKAMP team: 18:48:46: there is a small mic icon in the call window, can you mute?
michael g bauer: 18:48:59: will do sorry
BASEKAMP team: 18:49:07: ha ha no worries, thx!
scottrigby: 18:49:21: basekamp space --- also let us know if you want to speak --- we'll have ot pause here & turn up the speakers at that time. --- just let us know here on the text chat, because it'd be easy for us to speak over people
scottrigby: 18:58:00: btw, if anyone has questions, we can start queueing them any time
scottrigby: 18:58:41: this is marisa jahn asking the quesition now -- can you all hear the question ok? assuming yes
michael g bauer: 18:58:57: yes
BASEKAMP team: 18:59:00: yes, please type any comments and/or questions here in the text and Scott can help
BASEKAMP team: 18:59:12: yes
BASEKAMP team: 19:00:14: deceitful?
stephen wright: 19:00:53: not quite deceitful, but involving some tongue biting.
BASEKAMP team: 19:01:22: everything!
BASEKAMP team: 19:01:51: audio redaction
BASEKAMP team: 19:03:46: 1 stone = 14 pounds
scottrigby: 19:04:30
stephen wright: 19:04:31: Antony Hudek speaking
BASEKAMP team: 19:05:41: Elysa would you like to be added to the call?
Elysa Lozano: 19:05:52: hello! please!
BASEKAMP team: 19:06:38: welcome Elysa
Elysa Lozano: 19:06:46: thank you!
magdalenatc: 19:09:20: hi greg, i am out of the audio, can you add me again. thanks
magdalenatc: 19:09:45: ok, i see it is not only me
scottrigby: 19:10:02: please don't call -- Basekamp will call you -- thanks
BASEKAMP team: 19:10:21: others who need to be added to audio?
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:10:27: yes
scottrigby: 19:10:30: but please do let us know in the text chat if you've been dropped ----
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:10:36: ok
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:11:17: need audio
BASEKAMP team: 19:11:22: a reminder to newcomers to please mute your mic
BASEKAMP team: 19:11:58: sr I've tried a couple of times...nothing on your end?
scottrigby: 19:12:39: sr, you'll need to accept a call from Basekamp when it comes
BASEKAMP team: 19:13:31: sr it says you are not online
scottrigby: 19:13:44: ah -- sr, can you chantge your skype status?
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:13:46: hm
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:13:51: can you read this?
scottrigby: 19:13:59: yes
scottrigby: 19:14:08: sr, are you on a mac or PC?
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:14:31: ohmac
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:14:41: mac
scottrigby: 19:14:48: Ok --- so when in skype, under 'Window', click "Skype" (to make sure you're in the right window)...
scottrigby: 19:15:12: then in the upper left there is a little grey Xd out icon next to your name 'sr'
scottrigby: 19:15:32: click that, and select "Online" (green check mark)
scottrigby: 19:15:40: then you can be added to audio
BASEKAMP team: 19:15:46: thx Scott
scottrigby: 19:16:01: ^^ skype does this so we can't call people who arent' there ]
scottrigby: 19:16:05: or something like that
scottrigby: 19:16:16
BASEKAMP team: 19:16:25: welcome sr
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:16:40: thank you
scottrigby: 19:16:44: np!
BASEKAMP team: 19:17:07: one last thing, can you mute your mic, small icon in the bottom left of the call window, it helps keep the ambient noises down. but please join in when you'd like
BASEKAMP team: 19:20:22: ohhhh!
scottrigby: 19:20:39: anthony sawrey is not on the call?
BASEKAMP team: 19:21:02: held remotely? not sure what that means scott
scottrigby: 19:21:05: antony hudek speaking now
michael g bauer: 19:21:11: hi can you paraphrase the question via text?
scottrigby: 19:21:11: ^^ greg - ok
scottrigby: 19:21:52: was that better?
stephen wright: 19:21:56: APG became O + I at that time
BASEKAMP team: 19:22:01: yes
michael g bauer: 19:22:03: thx
stephen wright: 19:22:04: (Organisation and Imagination)
BASEKAMP team: 19:22:23: off & on
scottrigby: 19:22:43: is the audio ok though?
BASEKAMP team: 19:22:47: yes
michael g bauer: 19:22:52: yes
scottrigby: 19:22:55
bojana romic: 19:24:46: Have to go - it's 1:23 now here. Thanks guys! It's great, as always - hope the whole conversation would be added to the audio archive soon!
BASEKAMP team: 19:24:51: not reinventing but still "dealing with" no?
BASEKAMP team: 19:24:59: bojana thx for joing us!
scottrigby: 19:25:09: l8r!
bojana romic: 19:25:10: thank you!
BASEKAMP team: 19:25:11: oops joining
scottrigby: 19:25:17: see u next week ]
bojana romic: 19:25:28: <ss type="wink"></ss>
BASEKAMP team: 19:28:18: oh boy!
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:28:31: think i'm off
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:28:53: thx
michael g bauer: 19:29:01: thanks for joining
scottrigby: 19:32:30: some incredibly quotable comments here chris (by the way)
Matthew Slaats: 19:33:51: was wondering if Basekamp is recording and making these avaiable? Is so, do you have a url?
scottrigby: 19:33:59: matthew yes
BASEKAMP team: 19:34:07: Matthew yes we are recording
scottrigby: 19:34:21: we record them all -- and chris ryan has been cleaning up the audio over time..
BASEKAMP team: 19:34:31: Will be posted here: http://basekamp.com/about/events/artist-placement-group-basekamp-apexart when it's uploaded
BASEKAMP team: 19:34:43: a link that is
scottrigby: 19:34:57: exactly ...we've been posting to archive.org, and adding the links in the comments below each event page on basekamp.com
BASEKAMP team: 19:35:09: scott can you snap a few iphone images at the very least for flickr?
Matthew Slaats: 19:35:28: thanks! I'm wanting to re listen to this talk already and catch up on those that I missed.
scottrigby: 19:35:40: the first 3 weeks audio are up on the site now matthew
scottrigby: 19:36:07: chris is speeding ahead with it, after overcoming a technical hurdle... now they should be up much faster
BASEKAMP team: 19:36:10: rather ironic Stephen, when googling "embedded artist" I cam across this: http://www.embeddedartistproject.com/
scottrigby: 19:36:21: greg -- Apexart has been taking photos
BASEKAMP team: 19:37:01: great. are they willing to share?
scottrigby: 19:37:07: definitely
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:37:08: What did Logsdale think about these activties?
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:37:23: we share everything
scottrigby: 19:37:34: marisa jahn is speaking now
scottrigby: 19:37:39: sr - is from apex?
BASEKAMP team: 19:37:41: grrrreat! Thanks!
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:37:43: yup
scottrigby: 19:37:53: oh - stephen - got it
scottrigby: 19:38:02: thank you
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:38:40: with a v
scottrigby: 19:38:47: oh
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 19:38:51: ha
scottrigby: 19:39:15: http://www.stevenrand.info/
scottrigby: 19:39:51
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:40:23: does this include the nostaligic view of former avant-gardist groups such as the 0+1
scottrigby: 19:41:30: david g's question is in queue
scottrigby: 19:42:53: Stephen - reminder to add some info about that archive - I'm not familiar
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:43:48: Isnt the overall question here whether there is a continued value in the avant-garde? And to extend that question the value of autonomous artists & the priviledged role of the artist in shaping reality?
BASEKAMP team: 19:44:16: wow
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:44:17: thats fine read them out
BASEKAMP team: 19:44:41: does this include the nostaligic view of former avant-gardist groups such as the 0+1

[2/16/10 7:41:30 PM] scottrigby: david g's question is in queue
BASEKAMP team: 19:45:05: AND...[2/16/10 7:43:48 PM] post-autonomy: Isnt the overall question here whether there is a continued value in the avant-garde? And to extend that question the value of autonomous artists & the priviledged role of the artist in shaping reality?
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:45:06: 0+I
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:45:10: sorry
stephen wright: 19:50:09: marissa talking there
scottrigby: 19:50:45: barbara is pointing to the video at Apexart again
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:51:03: can I ask a further question - how is the use of space and context by artists differ from the colonising of space?
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:52:28: sorry to ask such basic questions but arent we looking at the rethinking and reinventing of the role of the artist and their role?
stephen wright: 19:54:11: david, I'll ask those questions in a second.
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:54:40: ok - but only if you think they are relevant
scottrigby: 19:55:14: well... personally i'm not assuming we're reinventing the role of the artist -- i think some of the existing roles may be relevant in other contexts
BASEKAMP team: 19:55:36: kopenkina can you mute your mic please
Elysa Lozano: 19:56:00: Would love to know her opinion on 'change': where she has seen this happen historically and what she felt were the APG impacts. (apologies if she covered this earlier!)
scottrigby: 19:56:18: Elysa - we'll ask that next -- a good question
Elysa Lozano: 19:56:53: thanks!
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:57:01: good question
lga_kop" title="olga_kop">kopenkina: 19:57:59: sorry, didn't know how to do that! can you put me on again?
BASEKAMP team: 19:58:41: thanks kopenkina sorry was in the midst of something but was going to try and point out how to mute
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:59:36: yes this my point
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 19:59:42: this is
BASEKAMP team: 20:00:15: kopenkina there is a small microphone icon in your call window which will mute your mic
BASEKAMP team: 20:00:38: or you should be able to go up to the call menu at the top of your screen and choose mute
BASEKAMP team: 20:01:19: lost audio?
magdalenatc: 20:01:29: yes
Matthew Slaats: 20:01:31: yep!
michael g bauer: 20:01:31: yes
Elysa Lozano: 20:01:34: yes
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 20:01:36: yes
BASEKAMP team: 20:01:39: ok hang tight
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 20:01:45: yes
stephen wright: 20:02:27: please reconnect
scottrigby: 20:02:39: temporarily we're using my iphone. can you hear?
magdalenatc: 20:02:46: i was really intersted in the answer to that question...
stephen wright: 20:02:47: we lost our connection
michael g bauer: 20:03:48: hi thanks for adding us
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 20:04:37: back
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 20:04:59: hm
BASEKAMP team: 20:05:28: Perhaps this is off topic but perhaps for the queue-after hearing a bit about the APG archive that was recently sold, I'm curious to hear if there is any fear that the "archive" as a secondary form of representation of the work and events themselves is in good hands with the Tate?
BASEKAMP team: 20:05:39: that was my witty question
BASEKAMP team: 20:06:31: sorry for the late tech snags but thank you so much to Barabara, ApexArt, Stephen, Scott, and everyone who joined us online!
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 20:06:31: the audio has gone
magdalenatc: 20:06:46: ok. tx greg.
magdalenatc: 20:06:54: tx all in apexart
Elysa Lozano: 20:06:56: thanks for the great talk!
michael g bauer: 20:06:56: alright thank you. very interesting discussion. look for to learning more about the artist placements
BASEKAMP team: 20:06:59: sorry gang the tech issues are in NYC and out of our control, plus it's 8 and time to wrap up
BASEKAMP team: 20:07:06: thanks MGB!
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 20:07:07: so suppose thats it for tonight
BASEKAMP team: 20:07:11: yep
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 20:07:30: thank you so much sorry for my primitive questions
stephen wright: 20:07:31: Thanks for your questions.
stephen wright: 20:07:42: I just thanked you for them!
Matthew Slaats: 20:07:50: Really enjoyed this. Might try to make it down this weekend for the other talks.
tjaraskype" title="stjaraskype">sr: 20:07:51: thanks folks
BASEKAMP team: 20:07:52: thx stepehn!
BASEKAMP team: 20:08:11: thx everyone
stephen wright: 20:08:13: Next week: A School of Decreative Methodologies
magdalenatc: 20:08:20: thank you everyone
BASEKAMP team: 20:08:23: ah yes good plug stephen
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 20:08:24: anyway look forward to the next talk
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 20:08:50: thank you stephen
ost-autonomy" title="post-autonomy">post-autonomy: 20:08:56: good night
BASEKAMP team: 20:09:00: good night all

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2010-02-16