Chat History with basekamp/$e37f965fff58e5a6" title="#basekamp/$e37f965fff58e5a6">Democratic Innovation http://www.basekamp.com/about/events/democratic-innovation (#basekamp/$e37f965fff58e5a6)

Created on 2010-05-11 20:04:25.

2010-05-11

BASEKAMP team: 17:59:42

hi everyone - we're still getting set up here.

atrowbri: 18:00:29

Scranton

BASEKAMP team: 18:00:30

awesomely, Skype "join" links are all b0rken this week, and -- it started raining here not long ago >

atrowbri: 18:00:30

everyone

BASEKAMP team: 18:01:28

while we finish setting up audio here & wait for kent -- hows everyone doing?

BASEKAMP team: 18:02:06

     

kent hansen: 18:02:39

guess I'm here...

BASEKAMP team: 18:02:51

well hello kent

kent hansen: 18:03:56

ok

BASEKAMP team: 18:04:10

will be on in just a moment everyone -- i know you're sitting on pins & needles

Greg Scranton: 18:04:28

I'm sitting on a duck

Greg Scranton: 18:04:33

a few in fact

atrowbri: 18:06:18

poor ducks

Jessica Westbrook: 18:07:01

 hello nice to meet you all

BASEKAMP team: 18:07:12

ok guys, let's give it a shot

atrowbri: 18:07:48

BASEKAMP team: 18:07:51

so jessica doesn't want audio --- everyone else?

Greg Scranton: 18:08:15

soundz 4 me pls

BASEKAMP team: 18:08:21

jessica- ok for us to just call eeryone and you not pick up? or is that too annoying on your end?

BASEKAMP team: 18:09:37

ok, we'll see...

Aharon: 18:10:14

i can hear fine. mic on mute

atrowbri: 18:10:29

we are on, muted

stephen wright: 18:10:29

are you calling us scott?

BASEKAMP team: 18:10:39

yea

Jessica Westbrook: 18:12:12

school is out

Jessica Westbrook: 18:12:17

last week

Jessica Westbrook: 18:12:58

note: we had 3 weeks of senior shows/lectures that interrupted our class meeting

stephen wright: 18:15:24

sorry, audio got dropped -- can you call back?

BASEKAMP team: 18:15:35

yes!

stephen wright: 18:15:44

thanks!

BASEKAMP team: 18:15:49

np

BASEKAMP team: 18:24:31

http://www.basekamp.com/about/events/democratic-innovation

Greg Scranton: 18:28:11

love the "strategy blows" balloons! can you tell us more about what's written on them, hard to tell from photo. Dymaxion map?

BASEKAMP team: 18:29:10

hey greg yea - i know what thost are from we shuld def talk about that soon

BASEKAMP team: 18:29:22

btw, is the audio a little better? just muted ours!

Greg Scranton: 18:29:58

audio sounds great Scott yes

atrowbri: 18:30:11

the audio is fantastic

BASEKAMP team: 18:30:56

                                                                                                                                                                                               

stephen wright: 18:33:09

just lost audio... can you call me back?

stephen wright: 18:35:05

hey scott.... can you call me please?

BASEKAMP team: 18:35:16

oh yes

BASEKAMP team: 18:35:26

calling bak now

stephen wright: 18:35:37

hey thanks!

BASEKAMP team: 18:35:43

BASEKAMP team: 18:39:17

BASEKAMP team: 18:40:10

calling you now bojana

bojana romic: 18:40:38

got it, switched off the mic

Aharon: 18:48:12

one of the things that seems interesting to me, or rather possibly ironically interesting, in this tention (??) between democratic - which is bottom up process of exploration, and organisation which is a sort of design/top-down kind of a process..

Aharon: 18:48:33

i find it hard to make it a question - but in fact, it is!

Aharon: 18:50:04

am not sure about thre mic

Aharon: 18:50:24

because it usually disturbs others here..

Aharon: 18:50:33

BASEKAMP team: 18:51:34

for example "self-organization"

BASEKAMP team: 18:53:16

hi theresa ---- adding you to the audio now...

stephen wright: 18:55:43

hey scott -- can you add me again too, slipped off again

BASEKAMP team: 18:55:44

cool

BASEKAMP team: 18:55:47

oh

BASEKAMP team: 18:55:57

adding u again sw

stephen wright: 18:56:00

thanks again!

BASEKAMP team: 18:56:26

kent was just saying there was a lot of discussion about the process of organizing and communication itself

BASEKAMP team: 18:56:38

throughout the process of working with the people in the factory

BASEKAMP team: 18:56:40

ies

Greg Scranton: 18:56:57

we're still here

Aharon: 18:57:27

are these organisations operational only for a certain persiod - or continuos..?

BASEKAMP team: 18:59:34

elysa adding you to the audio nowwwww

Aharon: 18:59:39

does the time element matter - in your mind - if yes, how?

Aharon: 19:00:23

..so.. do u see projects morph into one another..?

Aharon: 19:01:05

in your view

Greg Scranton: 19:01:47

maybe another way of recontextualizing the ? w/out speaking for Aharon...is each project discrete, one ends and another begins

Greg Scranton: 19:02:04

or is there some overlap

Greg Scranton: 19:03:05

Scott did you say TVTV? As in the SF vid collective? Sorry I missed that

BASEKAMP team: 19:04:06

Greg, in Copenhagen

BASEKAMP team: 19:04:08

http://tv-tv.dk/

Greg Scranton: 19:04:42

ohhhhh ok

Greg Scranton: 19:04:52

is there an awareness of the SF group?

Greg Scranton: 19:05:02

just curious

kent hansen: 19:05:14

tv-tv.dk

BASEKAMP team: 19:06:25

hah nice ----

Greg Scranton: 19:06:50

Aharon was that related to the "hack my cellphone" thing you did a while ago?

Aharon: 19:07:08

http://www.mellemtiden.tv/

kent hansen: 19:07:14

mellemtiden.tv

Aharon: 19:07:19

BASEKAMP team: 19:07:25

ok thx

BASEKAMP team: 19:09:39

http://www.basekamp.com/sites/default/files/event/oa_balloon_0.jpg

BASEKAMP team: 19:10:15

i could never pronounce that!

BASEKAMP team: 19:11:09

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Aharon: 19:12:18

lost sound

Aharon: 19:12:23

Aharon: 19:13:18

no sound..

atrowbri: 19:13:33

haha

atrowbri: 19:13:36

chaos!

BASEKAMP team: 19:13:53

calling you bak aharonn

BASEKAMP team: 19:15:07

aharon, are you playing sister nancy in the background?

Jonathan Wagener: 19:15:29

hello

kent hansen: 19:15:36

http://saloon.dk/oa

Aharon: 19:15:38

sorry.. it was playing

BASEKAMP team: 19:15:41

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Nancy LOL

kent hansen: 19:17:17

http://aobook.org

kent hansen: 19:17:34

http://oabook.org

stephen wright: 19:18:27

very cool

stephen wright: 19:20:54

What was that?

stephen wright: 19:20:58

what was missing?

Theresa: 19:21:15

the money i think

stephen wright: 19:21:30

oh, figures

stephen wright: 19:21:33

$$

BASEKAMP team: 19:22:07

Sasha, -- -audio too?

ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:22:16

Yes Please!

BASEKAMP team: 19:22:24

okay!

stephen wright: 19:24:04

but the collective writing process worked well?

Greg Scranton: 19:24:29

yes I am curious as well!

Theresa: 19:24:39

and how did it work?

stephen wright: 19:24:43

I'm interested too in knowing if your experience in the workplaces impacted in how you went about that

ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:24:43

yes- me too

Greg Scranton: 19:25:42

perhaps a painfully dull question but I wonder what "tools" you use? Paper & Pen? Email? Google Docs? Wikis? All of the above?

Theresa: 19:26:11

dull is helpful sometimes!

stephen wright: 19:26:42

pointed question rather!

Greg Scranton: 19:26:50

heh

Jonathan Wagener: 19:27:06

lol

stephen wright: 19:27:58

that strikes me as important too scott

BASEKAMP team: 19:28:21

here's one image of the projection table

http://www.basekamp.com/sites/default/files/event/table2_0.jpg

stephen wright: 19:30:26

lost me again -- can you call me back

BASEKAMP team: 19:30:50

d'oh! yea

Greg Scranton: 19:30:55

a student of mine and I built a crude version of one of these using processing: http://www.reactable.com/products/reactable_experience/

BASEKAMP team: 19:31:15

stephen, i had just described kent's table i know you wanted to hear about that

Greg Scranton: 19:31:15

has similar potential

Greg Scranton: 19:31:27

despite primary use as live audio interface

BASEKAMP team: 19:31:35

greg - looks interesting!

Greg Scranton: 19:31:38

audio?

Aharon: 19:31:43

no sound

stephen wright: 19:31:43

no audio

BASEKAMP team: 19:31:48

ruh roh

bojana romic: 19:31:50

my audio is lost too

Theresa: 19:31:50

none here

Greg Scranton: 19:31:52

lol

BASEKAMP team: 19:31:55

kent we lost you... calling you bak

Greg Scranton: 19:32:02

us too

Elysa Lozano: 19:32:07

me too

BASEKAMP team: 19:32:14

ack ok

BASEKAMP team: 19:32:19

let's call eeryone back

stephen wright: 19:32:20

I'm having a hard time following because of sound tonight

BASEKAMP team: 19:32:30

sorry stephen -- will call back now

ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:32:34

call me too please!

Greg Scranton: 19:33:17

we back

BASEKAMP team: 19:33:17

is everyone back now?

eanstoops" title="seanstoops">Sean Stoops: 19:33:18

hello again

stephen wright: 19:33:25

back!

Theresa: 19:33:25

yes

BASEKAMP team: 19:33:26

adam not yet

bojana romic: 19:33:43

cool now

Greg Scranton: 19:34:00

I don't hear anyone

BASEKAMP team: 19:34:02

ok... almost there... calling kent back

Greg Scranton: 19:34:10

oh ok sorry

Greg Scranton: 19:34:19

there we go

kent hansen: 19:34:29

hallo!

BASEKAMP team: 19:35:13

kent we need to call you back

kent hansen: 19:35:23

ok

stephen wright: 19:35:56

okay

Greg Scranton: 19:36:23

yep that seemed to work

Greg Scranton: 19:37:05

Kent I just added you to contact list

Greg Scranton: 19:37:12

pls accept

bojana romic: 19:37:19

Kent is the host of the another call

ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:38:01

Greg- can you add me to the audio?

Theresa: 19:39:06

good jobs guys

BASEKAMP team: 19:39:26

Greg, Sasha's skype name is 'sashadela'

Greg Scranton: 19:39:40

thx Scott got it...I think

ashadela" title="sashadela">S Dela: 19:39:40

I'm on- thanks

Greg Scranton: 19:39:43

ya

BASEKAMP team: 19:39:43

kewl

Greg Scranton: 19:40:48

of course now I need to step away for some kid duty - brb

BASEKAMP team: 19:41:03

greg - thx

stephen wright: 19:43:32

It's even more random than using skype!

Aharon: 19:44:19

r u talking about chatroulette?

stephen wright: 19:44:19

but what's strange is that it does actually allow some meaning to emerge at the other end

BASEKAMP team: 19:44:47

aharon yes exactly

BASEKAMP team: 19:45:30

                                                                                                                                           

Greg Scranton: 19:46:00

funny I just got back and now you guys are talking about things said that you missed

Theresa: 19:46:29

yeah!!!

Theresa: 19:46:56

i'll help scott

Greg Scranton: 19:47:04

there are plenty of factories in Philly

Greg Scranton: 19:47:38

yes that was my read as well given the photos

Greg Scranton: 19:48:07

cubicles are now called "work spaces" at my wife's "factory"

BASEKAMP team: 19:48:11

we also have co-working spaces here... a more current kind of workspace, where everyone is online

BASEKAMP team: 19:48:33

greg ^^

Greg Scranton: 19:49:51

it's interesting too to think of factories as spaces where the division of labor is quite obvious despite shared space

Greg Scranton: 19:50:12

physical space that is

BASEKAMP team: 19:51:18

yes, and it feels kind of metaphoric as artists when our own identity becomes the product

Aharon: 19:52:05

y is it not organising?

stephen wright: 19:55:57

oh oh, all's silent

Greg Scranton: 19:56:36

this has been, once again, really excellent! Thanks Kent!

Elysa Lozano: 19:56:46

thank you!

bojana romic: 19:56:51

1:55 central european time

bojana romic: 19:56:56

Theresa: 19:57:05

thank you

bojana romic: 19:57:08

thanks!

Aharon: 19:57:17

thanks kent!

stephen wright: 19:57:20

here too -- thanks kent. I'll just fill in the gaps. the rest is silence

kent hansen: 19:57:24

thanks to all of you

Aharon: 19:57:28

have a good sleep!

Greg Scranton: 19:57:28

Good morning/day/night all.  See you next time

Aharon: 19:57:39

nighty night!

eanstoops" title="seanstoops">Sean Stoops: 19:57:56

bye all!

kent hansen: 19:58:02

good night, bye

BASEKAMP team: 19:58:06

cyas next weekk

Jonathan Wagener: 19:58:08

cheerio