Chat History with basekamp/$6091908a676b1f3" title="#basekamp/$6091908a676b1f3">The Library Of Radiant Optimism For Let's Remake The World (#basekamp/$6091908a676b1f3)

Created on 2010-01-13 02:14:57.

2010-01-12

BASEKAMP team: 17:49:46

Hi Brett & Bonnie

BASEKAMP team: 17:49:48

we're here

Brett Bloom: 17:49:55

hi

BASEKAMP team: 17:49:57

settings up audio

Brett Bloom: 17:50:02

cool

Jonathan Wagener: 17:50:17

howzit everyone

BASEKAMP team: 17:51:06

Hi jonathan - we're setting things up now & will start in 10 mins or so

stephen wright: 17:51:06

Hello all!

BASEKAMP team: 17:51:12

Hi Stephen

Jonathan Wagener: 17:51:16

ok awesome

BASEKAMP team: 17:53:37

hey B&B can we do a quick call to check the recording levels?

Brett Bloom: 17:53:43

yes

Brett Bloom: 17:54:04

call bonnie

BASEKAMP team: 17:54:51

bonnie can you set your skype status to active

Brett Bloom: 17:54:58

it won't

Brett Bloom: 17:55:21

there it is

BASEKAMP team: 17:55:26

hmm really? i don't think we can call an inactive skype person :/

BASEKAMP team: 17:56:19

can i try you too stephen? we need 3 to conference call

Brett Bloom: 17:56:23

it says call refused when she tries to call you scott

stephen wright: 17:56:36

call me

BASEKAMP team: 17:56:39

yeah - we're trying to set a conf call, so we can add more. cool

Brett Bloom: 17:57:20

bonnie's skype crashed

BASEKAMP team: 17:57:24

ok

Bonnie: 17:57:33

I think I am on this chat

BASEKAMP team: 17:57:35

we can try again in a moment

Bonnie: 17:57:38

hey!

BASEKAMP team: 17:57:59

hey bonnie let me add you

mattadams: 18:05:33

haha am i here or am i supposed to join a conference call?

BASEKAMP team: 18:06:03

hello everyone

Aharon: 18:06:20

hiyas!

bfreee" title="dbfreee">Dave Beech: 18:07:02

hello

Brett Bloom: 18:07:11

hello

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 18:07:29

hello

Greg Scranton: 18:07:38

hey everyone

mattadams: 18:07:43

hola

Greg Scranton: 18:07:48

just working out the tech on our end here at Basekamp

Brett Bloom: 18:07:59

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/library-of-radiant-optimism-for-let-s-re-m...

Brett Bloom: 18:08:42

the link is so yous can see us. weird delay happens sometimes between skype and ustream.

Brett Bloom: 18:13:00

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BASEKAMP team: 18:14:03

hi stephanie

mattadams: 18:14:46

hmmm no audio on the ustream. just me?

Bonnie: 18:14:54

no audio on ustream

Bonnie: 18:15:00

we dont want feedback

BASEKAMP team: 18:15:02

so who wants to join the audio chat?

BASEKAMP team: 18:15:05

Matt, right?

Bonnie: 18:15:06

its just for a visual

mattadams: 18:15:06

ahh gotcha

stephen wright: 18:15:16

I'm on already

BASEKAMP team: 18:15:20

mattadams: 18:15:22

yah would like to listen

Aharon: 18:16:02

can not hear a thing from ustream

BASEKAMP team: 18:16:04

hi adam & jessica

Brett Bloom: 18:16:12

sound will come from skype

Brett Bloom: 18:16:16

ustream is just video

Brett Bloom: 18:16:21

otherwise mad feedback

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 18:16:22

I would like also to listen from skype as poss

Aharon: 18:16:37

i c.. lol

stephen wright: 18:18:20

mabel tapia is asking to join

BASEKAMP team: 18:19:01

we don't see mabel?

BASEKAMP team: 18:19:12

jessica & adam - do you wantt to join the audio now?

BASEKAMP team: 18:19:55

mabel can you "request contact details" from us?

mabel: 18:20:16

ok

mabel: 18:20:20

yes

Bonnie: 18:23:32

Hello everyone!

Jonathan Wagener: 18:23:40

howzit

Brett Bloom: 18:23:47

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/library-of-radiant-optimism-for-let-s-re-m...

[1/12/10 5:08:41 PM] Brett Bloom: the link is so yous can see us. weird delay happens sometimes between skype and ustream.

Bonnie: 18:24:06

thanks for having us!

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 18:24:17

glad to be here listening. hope to talk next time!

Brett Bloom: 18:26:44

but we are open to questions in the middle

BASEKAMP team: 18:27:48

hi natalie

BASEKAMP team: 18:27:52

welcome

Jonathan Wagener: 18:29:06

i will be on audio just now

BASEKAMP team: 18:29:19

welcome bojana

Aharon: 18:29:44

wasup with audio..?

bojana romic: 18:30:28

hi!

Aharon: 18:30:31

i can c bearded guy talking on ustream.. no sound via skype

Bonnie: 18:30:34

hi

Bonnie: 18:30:39

that's brett

Bonnie: 18:30:47

you shouldnt be able to hear him on ustream

Aharon: 18:31:07

i know.. am looking fwd hearing on skype..

Bonnie: 18:31:14

Aharon: 18:31:38

and the answer is..?

Bonnie: 18:31:55

not sure why you cant hear him on skype that is up to Basekamp team

mabel: 18:32:23

I can't hear him either...  

Bonnie: 18:32:29

http://www.halfletterpress.com/store/images/selfpub/library_guide_3.jpg

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 18:32:39

love the name and philosophy. I can hear

Aharon: 18:32:39

hello BR team!! wassup with skype audio again..?

BASEKAMP team: 18:32:57

mabel, sorry but the UStream has no audio here, we're using Skype for audio

Bonnie: 18:33:02

                 http://www.letsremake.info/library_guide.pdf

mabel: 18:33:30

yes, I know. I have no audio by skype (sorry

Aharon: 18:33:35

i can not hear the skype audio!!

BASEKAMP team: 18:33:40

ah, no problem

Brett Bloom: 18:33:48

IMAGE LINK: http://letsremake.info/images/spiritual_midwifery_small.jpg

BASEKAMP team: 18:33:51

aharon, let's add you then

BASEKAMP team: 18:33:56

ad to skype audio aharon?

stephen wright: 18:34:07

please add mabel too

Aharon: 18:34:09

pls do

Brett Bloom: 18:34:23

Spiritual Midwifery, By Ina May Gaskin, Book Publishing Company, 1976, 480 pages, paperback, ISBN: 1570671044





Spiritual Midwifery, now in its fourth printing, is a must read for students of midwifery but it is also an influential history of the counter culture. Ina May Gaskin and her husband Stephen Gaskin are founding members of The Farm in Summertown, TN, one of the longest running communes in the United States. The Farm was founded in 1971, Ina May published Spiritual Midwifery, in 1975 to document of the beginning of the Farm and the development of a successful out of hospital birth center, one of the first in the US. The book describes how the Farm was settled and how soon after there was a need for safe and secure medical care for pregnant and birthing women. The Farm Midwives learned how to be midwives out of necessity. An understanding local doctor aided them along with their education. The Midwives have gone on to deliver thousands of babies and are still practicing today.





The majority of the book is a collection of birth stories from the women of the Farm. The fourth edition has added birth stories from the Old Amish Families near the Farm whom some of the Midwives worked with, and birth stories from people who came to the Farm just to give birth. The book also includes a practical section for midwifery students with how-to skills infused with the Farm philosophy of home birth.





Ina May’s writing makes this book special, particularly in the way she frames the material. Although she never set out to be a midwife, she pays close attention to the way words affect how women perceive not only labor, but also their bodies in general. In the book, she weaves a powerful history of a group of people creating their own place in the world, calmly and peacefully, and how communication through specific language and touch plays a vital part in the success of their endeavors. There are also amazing photos of women giving birth.

Bonnie: 18:35:05

http://halfletterpress.com/FREE_STORE/bld_lvng_strct_lrge.jpg

BASEKAMP team: 18:35:13

hi Dave, we're adding you to the conference call now

BASEKAMP team: 18:35:34

everyone, please mute your audio - until we do Q&A in about 20-30  mins

Bonnie: 18:35:34

http://www.letsremake.info/k_isaacs.pdf

Bonnie: 18:35:45

That was the pdf of the book for ya'll

Aharon: 18:35:57

cool

Bonnie: 18:36:00

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lefortune/4269551977/

Bonnie: 18:36:05

here are some more images

Bonnie: 18:36:15

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lefortune/4269557705/

Aharon: 18:36:18

..and adio audio..?

Bonnie: 18:36:36

Aharon still does not have audio Scott

Bonnie: 18:36:49

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lefortune/4270301944/

BASEKAMP team: 18:37:11

h iMabel

mabel: 18:37:25

great!! It works

mabel: 18:37:27

!!

BASEKAMP team: 18:37:30

please mute your audio everyone until we do Q&A in about 20 - 30 mins

BASEKAMP team: 18:37:32

lovely

Aharon: 18:37:36

looks like it blocked me out

Jonathan Wagener: 18:37:43

Hi

Abigail: 18:37:48

hey basekamp, can you add me again, i got booted

BASEKAMP team: 18:37:49

aharon trying to add you again

BASEKAMP team: 18:37:51

ok

Bonnie: 18:37:52

can you see the map

Bonnie: 18:37:53

?

Abigail: 18:38:00

thx

BASEKAMP team: 18:38:11

adding you again

Bonnie: 18:39:45

k

BASEKAMP team: 18:42:13

mabel i think you need to turn your skype status on

BASEKAMP team: 18:42:33

we are trying to add you to the conference call (only we can add you)

mabel: 18:42:46

ok

BASEKAMP team: 18:42:58

but we need to have people accept our details request & turn on their status to 'available'

mabel: 18:44:03

it's done now isn't it?

BASEKAMP team: 18:44:09

yes - adding you now

mabel: 18:44:24

great!!!!!!!!

mabel: 18:44:34

working now

Bonnie: 18:44:40

aquaculture is done now.  we visited an amazing aquaculture space in northern denmark

BASEKAMP team: 18:44:45

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

mabel: 18:44:58

Jonathan Wagener: 18:45:05

Lol

Bonnie: 18:45:06

(wave)

Jonathan Wagener: 18:45:12

BASEKAMP team: 18:45:21

hi valentina

BASEKAMP team: 18:45:38

fantastic Brett & Bonnie

Valentina Desideri: 18:45:43

hello

BASEKAMP team: 18:45:51

Valentina, would you like to be added to the audio too?

BASEKAMP team: 18:46:00

we have a dozen people on the call

Valentina Desideri: 18:46:14

i have bad internet connection audio won't work

BASEKAMP team: 18:46:34

ok

BASEKAMP team: 18:46:54

Bonnie is talkign about the book "Radical Technology"

BASEKAMP team: 18:48:04

Whoa - that looks amazing

Brett Bloom: 18:48:24

http://www.halfletterpress.com/store/images/whoever_voted_for.jpg

BASEKAMP team: 18:48:33

For those not on audio, they are holding up an image of a DIY basemaent workshop

BASEKAMP team: 18:48:35

there you go

Brett Bloom: 18:49:02

http://letsremake.info/images/whatweknow.jpg

Brett Bloom: 18:49:08

poster from the gathering

BASEKAMP team: 18:49:09

Everyone please mute your audio, until we move to Q&A (the microphone icon in your call window)

Brett Bloom: 18:49:38

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lefortune/2221335047/sizes/l/in/set-7215760...

Brett Bloom: 18:49:47

images from the event

Brett Bloom: 18:50:01

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lefortune/2222111922/sizes/l/in/set-7215760...

Jonathan Wagener: 18:50:10

I want to try my audio. Please add me to the call.

Brett Bloom: 18:50:22

http://www.joaap.org/6/lovetowe/fortunebloom.html

Bonnie: 18:51:33

http://letsremake.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lets-remake-1-212...

Bonnie: 18:51:40

The book that we put together with YNKB

Bonnie: 18:51:54

http://www.messhall.org/

Bonnie: 18:52:04

http://www.ynkb.dk/

Bonnie: 18:52:17

The spaces we have worked with that we are talking about

Bonnie: 18:52:30

thanks greg!

Bonnie: 18:52:39

#  http://letsremake.info/Lets_remake.pdf

Bonnie: 18:52:50

we have got a lot of optimism to share!

BASEKAMP team: 18:53:15

David do you want to join audio too?

Brett Bloom: 18:53:27

http://letsremake.info/images/book_club_poster.jpg

Jonathan Wagener: 18:53:35

Could I join?

BASEKAMP team: 18:53:41

yes

mattadams: 18:53:47

thats a mouthful

BASEKAMP team: 18:53:48

loves the title BTW

Jonathan Wagener: 18:53:49

Don't know it it will work

Aharon: 18:54:33

it is down

Bonnie: 18:54:40

we need to check brett's connection

Bonnie: 18:54:52

http://letsremake.info/images/book_club_poster.jpg

Brett Bloom: 18:55:55

video should be back

Brett Bloom: 18:56:15

can you all see it?

mattadams: 18:56:16

it is

Brett Bloom: 18:56:28

The Library of Radiant Optimism for Let's Re-Make the World began with a mutual fascination for books from the late 1960s and early 1970s that shared the aesthetic and ethics of self-publication and self-education. These how-to books document cultural practices from the founding and maintence of communal living spaces and growing your own organic garden, to early sustainable design initiatives and home-birthing. The people and projects represented in the books selected for inclusion in the Library paved the way for today's environmental movement and sustainable design culture. The counterculture of this time took seriously the task of building the world they wanted to see.



The Book of the Month Club is an opportunity for us to share some newly selected titles with you. Each month during 2010, we will be scanning and uploading a new book to our website. Books that are hard to find, or particularly capture the spirit of the Library, will be selected to share with you during the Book of the Month Club project.



We begin welcoming Library patrons on January 15, 2010.



The Book of the Month Club is realized in collaboration with basekamp.

BASEKAMP team: 18:56:39

btw, stephen wright is co-host since he's co-organizing Plausible Artworlds with us in 2010 ]

Brett Bloom: 18:56:59

oh yeah, thanks stephen

Brett Bloom: 18:57:10

Charas, The Improbable Dome Builders, By Syeus Mottel, Drake Publishers, Inc., 1973, 191 pages, hardback, ISBN: 0-87749-490-8





“This book is dedicated to everything that is.” This simple dedication begins Charas, the Improbable Dome Builders. The book is a document of a Lower East Side community and their struggle to build a geodesic dome, beginning in the early 1960s with struggling New York City street life and systemic racism. Several men who would become CHARAS members led or were involved in gangs and moved in and out of prison while watching friends and loved ones succumb to drugs and violence. Carlos “Chino” Garcia and Angelo Gonzalez, Jr. two friends from the Lower East Side and involved in gang life from an early age, start the CHARAS story.



Angelo, after serving a long jail sentence and Chino, after spending a year in Puerto Rico at the request of the NYPD, meet up again in their old neighborhood with the idea to do something for their community. The two men were inspired by Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society plan which sought to eliminate poverty and racial injustice in America. Talking at a party they joked that they would start the “Real Great Society” in their neighborhood. The joking led to long discussions drawing in friends and neighbors in an apartment space on East 6th Street. Finally, the group was able to obtain the entire building as a meeting and organizing place to launch the Real Great Society in earnest. Much of what the Real Great Society project was about was developing community autonomy through self-directed economic and education projects. The project managed to do a lot for the neighborhood forming several businesses and setting up several storefront schools for teaching reading and basic math in East Harlem and the Lower East Side.





This project brought national attention to the Lower East Side. Despite its initial successes the group continued to do research and work toward finding the answer to affordable housing. This led them to contact R. Buckminster Fuller, after Chino learned of his design work. Fuller came and spoke at the Real Great Society loft to a rapt audience. This meeting led to the formation of CHARAS, an acronym of the first names of the original six members of the group, committed to implementing Fuller’s ideas for housing in their community.





The original idea was to build a dome in upstate New York so that city dwellers could experience fresh air. Budgetary constraints forced the group to begin building on an abandoned lot in the city. The group worked closely with Fuller’s assistant Michael Ben Eli, a PhD student in London at the time who often traveled with Fuller. In a strange collapsing of scale, Ben Eli commuted from London to the Lower East Side to teach the CHARAS members and friends about the applied geometry of dome building. Several CHARAS members had not graduated from high school and had a skeptical attitude to teacher student relationships. According to the book, there was a long period for CHARAS members and Ben Eli as the learned to communicate with each other. The commitment to the idea finally led to the building of a dome.





Marriage, childbirth, death, and the need to work to support families form the backdrop of the CHARAS story to build a dome house. The process as described in the book is long and arduous and the dome house does not clearly produce lasting change in the community. Rather the process initiated by the former gang members of creating alternatives to poverty and the violence of street life through collective work is the most salient aspect of the book. The book includes an introduction by Fuller and plans for dome building in appendix. Domes were a touchstone for liberation through design, and captured the imagination of many people; this is one of the more interesting stories of their impact on radical culture.

Jonathan Wagener: 18:57:11

mattadams: 18:58:30

been reading about / watching tons of buckminster fuller this week. nice!

Bonnie: 18:58:42

cool matt

Bonnie: 18:58:48

you will love this download then

Aharon: 18:59:19

how is a book of a month become such a book..???

BASEKAMP team: 19:00:52

hi carolyn & henken

Aharon: 19:00:53

..but surely one of the creteria is how you chose/selct/curate these..?

Bonnie: 19:01:11

how do you mean Aharon?

Bonnie: 19:01:35

we select titles that we are interested in and fit the criteria of the Library

Bonnie: 19:02:24

And criteria for the Library are-books from the late 60s early 70s that are often "how-to" books.

Bonnie: 19:03:00

They are also often self published, but not always and they express some idea about building up another culture or way of doing things

Aharon: 19:03:02

@bonnie you have a range of books to be chosen as book of the month, surely, someone somehow chose it..?

Bonnie: 19:03:46

yes we have a range.  We have been wanting to add Charas to the Library itself for awhile

Bonnie: 19:04:09

so we saw this as a perfect opportunity to both add it to the Library and to put up a scan of the book as well

Bonnie: 19:04:35

does that help?

Aharon: 19:05:41

hummm.. did i hear that u chose a book from a range of them each month..?

Bonnie: 19:05:53

yes

Aharon: 19:06:10

who makes that selection/choice?

Bonnie: 19:06:16

we do together

Aharon: 19:06:29

i c.. thanks!

Bonnie: 19:06:43

cool  

Jonathan Wagener: 19:07:02

Very interesting

BASEKAMP team: 19:07:16

hi cecilia

Jonathan Wagener: 19:07:22

What do u do about copyright?

Cecilia Guida: 19:08:08

copyright??? and you? let me think and know what you're talking about

Aharon: 19:08:09

another thing.. i wonder if this can be elaborated by ppl, i have not heard the term "counter culture" for a veeeeeeeeeeeery loooooooooong time.... Do u use this term because it was a rather used one at times these books were made..?

stephen wright: 19:08:30

I have a question. I'm of two minds about "how-to" books. Growing up in the 70s, my parents had all sorts of these books around: user's guides to this that and the other thing. Joy of Sex. Build your own log cabin. How to tie flies. How to catch salmon. The anarchists handbook... I always figured that those books came too late. Kind of like Hegel's owl, that flies only with the coming of dusk. I mean, the action was relevant before the book spelled it out for everyone, by which point the cutting edge had moved on. -----

BASEKAMP team: 19:08:55

So stephen has a question, then Michael has a question after that

Aharon: 19:09:18

i had 1 b4..

Bonnie: 19:09:33

That's is an interesting thought Stephen. I wonder if that's why we feel the need to draw attention to these titles for a new generation, because perhaps there is time to "how-to"

BASEKAMP team: 19:09:38

oh, yes - aharon first

BASEKAMP team: 19:09:42

then stephen

BASEKAMP team: 19:09:44

then michael

BASEKAMP team: 19:09:53

keeping a queue

Jonathan Wagener: 19:10:16

Lol

Bonnie: 19:10:52

thanks basekamp team

BASEKAMP team: 19:11:17

then greg

Aharon: 19:11:43

ok.. i get that.. it is contextual..

Bonnie: 19:11:56

yep

Aharon: 19:12:45

..and another one.. I wonder.. u just mentioned that u publish books as well as gathering/collecting in your library.. am just wondering if indeed this is a library or a "library"..

Bonnie: 19:14:21

you mean do we lend the titles out like a regular library?

Aharon: 19:15:10

in a sense that titles are produced by you(??) getting lended out/avaliable to download..

stephen wright: 19:15:36

the urban homesteading case is a good example of how recalling usership 's potential is empowering

BASEKAMP team: 19:16:39

the next question in queue was from Michael

Bonnie: 19:16:45

So, it's two-fold. We collect the book titles and share them through reviews online and the PDFs (Book of the Month.) But also, we self-publish our own titles-reviews of the books, or documents of projects that we have done

BASEKAMP team: 19:17:56

B&B you guys could take pics and make a pdf out of thost if it's too fragine to scan

Bonnie: 19:18:09

that's a good idea

Aharon: 19:18:16

i c.. so in that case am wondering why you call yourselves a library? it seems like this is not a description but more of a metaphor in the "as if" sense of a metaphor..

BASEKAMP team: 19:20:57

Guys, was that the first time you've visited that island as part of Continental Drift?

BASEKAMP team: 19:21:14

that was a quick Q i guess --

BASEKAMP team: 19:21:26

Greg is in queue for the next question

BASEKAMP team: 19:22:27

Hi Alex

Brett Bloom: 19:22:36

http://www.heavydutypress.com/books/farms_pdf

ourcreamesteem" title="sourcreamesteem">Alex M.: 19:23:32

Hey

Henken Bean: 19:25:10

I'm curious who your audience is or if you have a target audienceand if you market your projects if at all. Maybe it was already answered earlier-

BASEKAMP team: 19:26:37

So Henken is next in queue unless there was another one we missed?

Bonnie: 19:26:45

yep

BASEKAMP team: 19:27:02

BASEKAMP team: 19:27:36

we've finally downloaded the call to farms pdf & are projecting in the space

Bonnie: 19:27:44

great

Bonnie: 19:28:34

http://www.letsremake.info/library.html

stephen wright: 19:29:10

I totally agree with your point about re-evalutating the 60s, taking back their work from its dismissal, and repurposing the hard work that was done.

BASEKAMP team: 19:29:23

                                                                                         

stephen wright: 19:30:11

But don't you need to expand -- geographically -- what you mean by the 60s.

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 19:30:47

hey henken

Bonnie: 19:31:35

@stephen you mean will we include books that are from other regions and the counter cultural activity that happened there?

Aharon: 19:32:03

hummm... in terms of paw.. would you say that your artistic practice is curative..?  with an emphasis on curation of the "counter culture" lit within a library metaphor..???

Henken Bean: 19:32:21

Hey scrap!

Bonnie: 19:34:00

I think @aharon should be the next in the cue yes?

BASEKAMP team: 19:34:08

Hi Alan

BASEKAMP team: 19:34:14

adding you to the call now

Aharon: 19:34:17

thanks! @bonnie

stephen wright: 19:34:43

While you answer the other questions, let me contextualize mine: I live in France, and May '68 in this country is a secularly sacred moment of contestation; it changed everything (and opened the door to gentrification). But not only that, and here as in the States, the radical and caustic edge of that movement needs to be reposessed. But what about Mexico? Argentina? Turkey? India? The global spirit to do things differently and to do them oneself was very powerful. So I think you might want to consider that in choosing your titles of the month.

Henken Bean: 19:35:01

Yes thank you!

BASEKAMP team: 19:36:01

Alan btw, there werre lots of hellos to you after adding to the text chat & before you got on audio  

Bonnie: 19:36:11

@stephen wright nxt in the cue

Bonnie: 19:36:20

hello alan

BASEKAMP team: 19:36:24

oops, alan calling you back

BASEKAMP team: 19:36:54

will try again

BASEKAMP team: 19:37:30

hmm, alan we have to add you

Aharon: 19:37:49

yup

Aharon: 19:37:49

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 19:37:56

not fully researched-- but I work in the International Center of Photography Library and there is a radical self-reliance spirit that seems to come out in Eastern European solidarity movements of late 80's/90's

Aharon: 19:38:09

thanks! will have a follow up though..

Bonnie: 19:38:39

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BASEKAMP team: 19:38:53

hey alan - you got in the call!

stephen wright: 19:39:54

the problem is that south american counter culture was crushed and exterminated by american imperialism

mattadams: 19:39:54

pura vida!

Aharon: 19:40:51

hummm.. to follow on the question regarding your project as a paw.. you mentioned that you use stuff from your project in your daily lives, then added that in art contexts as well.. In a sense you did there a seperation between "life" and "art".. I wonder, in that case, what are the contexts you define as "art"???

stephen wright: 19:41:01

great! thanks

Bonnie: 19:41:29

you are welcome

Greg Scranton: 19:41:50

Photos of the "library" at Basekamp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/basekamp2010/

BASEKAMP team: 19:42:09

thanks for that Q stephen -- i would like to follow up with this maybe as a public school course proposal, as well as other ilnes of thought or questions that have come up tonight

Greg Scranton: 19:42:10

books will be added each month

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 19:42:14

scrap compilations of resource information fuel activated intelligence toward living systems without conflict! rock-on

Bonnie: 19:42:41

that looks great @Basekamp team

Bonnie: 19:42:48

thanks for putting it together

Greg Scranton: 19:42:59

sure Bonnie

Aharon: 19:43:47

i c.. thanks!

Bonnie: 19:44:19

http://www.letsremake.info/mnd.html

Brett Bloom: 19:44:47

for those who just joined or recently joined you can watch us without sound: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/library-of-radiant-optimism-for-let-s-re-m...

Bonnie: 19:45:11

breaking up

Bonnie: 19:45:52

I can hear you!

Greg Scranton: 19:46:07

Adam, if you or your students do have ?s perhaps text them in

BASEKAMP team: 19:48:26

can you show us those things again?

BASEKAMP team: 19:48:30

B&B?

BASEKAMP team: 19:48:37

took us a while to get ustream to show

Bonnie: 19:48:44

yes

BASEKAMP team: 19:48:48

TY

Bonnie: 19:48:51

I will show you the lamp again

Bonnie: 19:48:54

get ready

BASEKAMP team: 19:49:19

okay... but there's a delay

BASEKAMP team: 19:49:27

grr, now it's spinning. dang

BASEKAMP team: 19:49:47

alan we have to add you to teh conf call, whcih is why we keep declining your call

Bonnie: 19:51:02

YEAH!!!

Bonnie: 19:51:08

BASEKAMP team: 19:52:03

we keep trying to add you alan,... seems like you are in for a moment or so at a time

Greg Scranton: 19:53:25

bucket undies?

Bonnie: 19:53:40

undie-comfortable

Bonnie: 19:53:55

BASEKAMP team: 19:56:36

http://basekamp.com/about/events/public-school-and-aaaargorg#comments

BASEKAMP team: 19:57:22

FOR THIS WEEK

http://basekamp.com/about/events/library-radiant-optimism-lets-re-make-w...

stephen wright: 19:59:17

Thanks so much B&B! It's 2 am here, so I'll be acknowledging my comatosis and going to sleep, but it's been... radiant hearing about your project.

BASEKAMP team: 19:59:20

^^ COMMENT HERE

Bonnie: 19:59:36

Oh thanks Stephen we sincerely appreciate your feedback

Bonnie: 19:59:37

!

Bonnie: 19:59:48

Please keep in touch

stephen wright: 19:59:58

count on that

Bonnie: 20:00:07

sleep well

Aharon: 20:00:20

thanks guys for coming!!

bfreee" title="dbfreee">Dave Beech: 20:00:50

thanks everyone

stephen wright: 20:01:08

Long live radiant piracy!

bojana romic: 20:01:13

thanks, bye!

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 20:01:26

any brooklyn affiliates? we run some of our own inititives as "noetic lab school for noosphere" but not reaching a growing population and would rather have discussions for "creatively/collaboratively envisioning new futures" than  just high-brow Art discussions (such as bhqfu). thanks BASEKAMP and RADIANT OPTIMISTS!!

Bonnie: 20:01:26

lefortune @gmail.com

crapworm" title="scrapworm">scrapworm: 20:03:01

noeticlab@earthlink.net

stephen wright: 20:03:23

until next week!

Bonnie: 20:03:23

     (wave)

Brett Bloom: 20:04:47

thanks!

BASEKAMP team: 20:05:35

you guys rock

mattadams: 20:05:59

thanks guys!

Greg Scranton: 20:06:11

L8R all. Thx a million Brett & Bonnie

Bonnie: 20:06:24

thanks